Unwell - Matchbox Twenty

Matchbox Twenty – "Unwell"
Atlantic; 2003
3.2

By: Dax Mumberson, Pitchfork Contributor

There are songs that define an era, and then there’s “Unwell” by Matchbox Twenty—a song that limply gestured at defining something before retreating back into a GAP sweater of its own design. Released in 2003, but spiritually 1998, “Unwell” is a murky broth of acoustic sincerity, radio-safe angst, and the sonic equivalent of a lukewarm Sprite left on the counter at your divorced dad’s condo.

Frontman Rob Thomas—America’s reigning monarch of bland competence—delivers a performance that screams, “I’m sad, but like, in a relatable, post-TRL way.” His voice trembles with a vague vulnerability that makes you think, “This man has probably stared out a rainy window, but only during a sponsored VH1 special.” The lyrics read like therapy Mad Libs: “I’m not crazy, I’m just a little unwell” is the kind of line that makes your aunt nod solemnly and say, “That’s deep,” while clipping coupons for gluten-free Oreos.

Musically, the track is as adventurous as a mayonnaise sandwich. A plodding acoustic guitar trudges along next to a drumbeat that sounds like it was generated by a coffee machine having an existential crisis. The whole thing feels like it was designed by a focus group of 36-year-olds who just discovered feelings and are very tired.

It’s not that “Unwell” is bad in the way that, say, an active crime scene is bad—it’s more that it’s aggressively beige. It is the sonic equivalent of that one IKEA lamp you forget you own until it catches fire. It’s a musical shrug. A warm sigh in cargo shorts. A song that says, “Hey, we might not be okay, but at least we’re doing it in khaki.”

And yet, somehow, this song slaps. But only if you’re in a dentist’s chair, high on nitrous, pondering every life choice that brought you to this point.

TL;DR: If adult contemporary were a medical condition, “Unwell” would be the symptom, the diagnosis, and the follow-up email confirming your next appointment.

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Transcript

00:56.39
Chibbs
This is 1001 Songs That Make You Want to Die, the podcast we talk about songs so bad it makes you want to run for office and at the first sign of international tension, go with the nuclear option.

01:08.06
gav
I like it.

01:08.51
Mad Dog
oh

01:09.00
Bevo
Poignant.

01:10.81
Chibbs
The first sign.

01:11.89
Mad Dog
Yes, sir.

01:13.13
Chibbs
Yeah.

01:13.91
Mad Dog
Just keep your finger on the button.

01:17.12
gav
My finger is on the button.

01:16.57
Chibbs
Just both keys in turned at all times.

01:21.20
Bevo
but Just ready to go.

01:21.57
Chibbs
Just duringering during my presidency, these will be turned.

01:23.57
Mad Dog
And

01:24.36
gav
yeah

01:27.66
Bevo
You dial 9-1.

01:31.31
gav
yeah

01:32.91
Mad Dog
and what do you say

01:36.64
Chibbs
yeah Speaking of... um

01:40.46
Bevo
Dialing 9-1. 9-1-1.

01:40.68
Chibbs
yeah calling the cops.

01:43.29
Bevo
and one one

01:44.05
gav
but Ha ha.

01:45.49
Chibbs
We are doing unwell by Matchbox 20.

02:28.11
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah.

02:32.88
gav
Nice fade out. i felt like I feel like he was walking past us on the street and that was just us hearing him fading into the distance.

02:33.70
Chibbs
There you go. Just hearing in his inner monologue.

02:42.51
Mad Dog
I'm just crazy.

02:42.56
gav
Ha ha ha.

02:42.70
Chibbs
you know

02:44.99
Bevo
I'll save it for mimic minute. Mad dog.

02:45.75
Chibbs
Yeah. Save it for Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.

02:47.62
gav
Ha ha ha.

02:47.16
Chibbs
Yeah.

02:48.01
Mad Dog
Oh, sorry.

02:47.69
Chibbs
you're going to, if you're going to be Rob Thomas, let me hit the fucking stinger. um Bevo's here. Trusty beverage.

02:54.38
Bevo
Yeah. We're back in the golden age of when bands needed a number after their name.

02:58.42
Chibbs
Yeah, it's good time.

03:00.41
gav
Oh, hello.

02:59.72
Chibbs
Good time. Gavin?

03:02.24
gav
How are we?

03:02.66
Chibbs
Good. Mad Dog's here.

03:05.94
Chibbs
All right.

03:07.77
gav
but

03:07.42
Chibbs
Okay.

03:09.07
Bevo
That dog's been left outside too long.

03:08.42
Chibbs
Dan Southern is not here. Southern's not here. He's cracked it. ah Cracked the big time with his inventions.

03:14.68
gav
Oh, good on him.

03:15.17
Chibbs
He's always tinkering around his garage. He's come up with...

03:18.09
gav
Yep.

03:18.47
Chibbs
He's delved into the world of AI.

03:21.57
Bevo
Ah, he's a pioneer.

03:21.61
gav
Okay.

03:21.87
Chibbs
It's a hot topic.

03:23.80
gav
It was bound to happen. bound to happen it eventually.

03:24.21
Chibbs
Yeah.

03:25.13
Bevo
Yeah.

03:25.37
gav
like

03:25.01
Chibbs
he's he's He's invented a chatbot that listens to your con conversations at all times and then randomly bursts into laughter.

03:35.04
gav
Oh my God.

03:35.90
Chibbs
There's no context or understanding.

03:36.91
gav
Oh my God.

03:37.78
Chibbs
It's just emotional gaslighting.

03:38.57
Mad Dog
yeah

03:42.03
Bevo
yes

03:41.44
Chibbs
Yeah.

03:43.89
gav
ah

03:44.16
Mad Dog
Emotional

03:45.11
Chibbs
yeah

03:46.60
gav
my god

03:46.69
Bevo
i'd be trying I'd be trying to let time it perfectly just have a joke and then it burst out laughing and it's like, yep. Yep, that was me.

03:52.80
Chibbs
Yeah, that's it.

03:55.69
Bevo
Or imagine the poorly timed like, oh, fuck, grandma just died.

03:56.08
Mad Dog
That's me.

03:59.70
Bevo
ah, ah, ah.

04:00.14
Chibbs
but

04:01.49
Bevo
ah

04:01.96
gav
but

04:01.34
Chibbs
um I'm sorry, Dave. We're going to have to let you go. you would.

04:09.65
gav
Dave would laugh about that.

04:09.98
Chibbs
they would

04:11.61
Mad Dog
I'm sorry, but um Fido, going to have to put him down. yeah

04:20.64
gav
ah wow

04:19.97
Chibbs
Yeah, it'd be good fun. That's what AI should be used for.

04:22.13
Bevo
What a great invention. Yeah.

04:24.24
Chibbs
Yeah, all right. We've got lyrics to get through here from Matchbox.

04:29.35
Bevo
That's both.

04:29.24
Chibbs
twenty twenty twenty From 20 Matchboxes.

04:31.39
gav
ah how How many of them?

04:34.89
Chibbs
Yeah. It's weird they never used cover art that was just 20 Matchboxes piled up.

04:41.30
Mad Dog
Have you, speaking of, have you seen the cover art on this?

04:40.64
Chibbs
but

04:41.43
gav
That would have been pretty good.

04:41.85
Bevo
Well, like 20 of them, the 20th one circled. The umti one is circled

04:45.01
Chibbs
Yeah, so yeah.

04:49.14
Bevo
egg

04:48.71
Chibbs
I don't know. It's in an egg.

04:50.26
Mad Dog
The egg.

04:50.64
gav
the The egg is quite, yeah.

04:51.40
Mad Dog
with All right, we'll get to that.

04:51.97
Bevo
a single cover

04:54.57
Mad Dog
Yeah.

04:55.65
Chibbs
The first one, it goes, all day yeah staring at the ceiling, making friends with shadows on my wall.

05:00.58
Mad Dog
Yeah.

05:05.32
Chibbs
At night, hearing voices telling me that I should get some sleep because tomorrow might be good for something. Okay. All right.

05:16.14
Bevo
Sounds like a man that's, ah I can tell is a little bit crazy.

05:16.82
Chibbs
Okay.

05:20.42
Chibbs
hey Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:22.42
gav
ah ha

05:23.23
Chibbs
It's not entirely sane. um

05:26.28
Mad Dog
Okay.

05:26.51
Bevo
Here comes.

05:28.04
Mad Dog
garre um Gavin,

05:29.88
gav
Yeah, mate.

05:32.77
Mad Dog
you might join me on this.

05:36.07
gav
I suspect I know.

05:36.80
Bevo
here come

05:37.15
gav
Keep going.

05:37.73
Mad Dog
Yeah, ah have you been here?

05:42.93
gav
wait, wait. You're talking about you're talking about this. This.

05:47.51
Mad Dog
I'm talking about maybe ah recovery after a big night.

05:52.73
gav
I don't... I don't get hangovers.

05:55.04
Chibbs
And you make and make you make friends with shadows on your wall.

05:56.98
gav
I don't get hangovers.

05:59.97
Chibbs
Like, how deep of a friendship do you think you could actually, like, muster up with the shadow?

06:00.73
gav
ah

06:01.72
Mad Dog
I'm just...

06:06.67
Bevo
That's that old like, it's all right, it's all right, it's all right, it's all right, it's all right.

06:07.28
Mad Dog
ah

06:10.34
gav
ah

06:10.52
Mad Dog
ah

06:11.74
gav
um'm I'm sensing, Mad Dog, that you've got that you've got ah that you've got demons that you've worked through the day after.

06:11.91
Mad Dog
I'm just...

06:17.03
Mad Dog
Okay. All right. ah I will declare um i'm mentally unwell. So...

06:24.20
gav
I like that you were like, I'm going to reach for Gavin because he's definitely also mentally unwell.

06:29.08
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

06:30.13
Bevo
to Scan the chat, which one of us...

06:31.53
gav
ah

06:31.54
Chibbs
I did see him just, just, just like rolling that, that revolver around in his palms before we hit record.

06:32.57
Mad Dog
No, no.

06:39.05
Mad Dog
Yeah.

06:39.95
gav
Ha ha ha.

06:39.96
Mad Dog
ah

06:40.95
gav
Ha ha

06:42.09
Mad Dog
Okay. Well, um I'm going to withdraw from the conversation now and plead the fifth because I will incriminate myself and let you guys have the conversation.

06:46.72
Bevo
but He said too much.

06:46.88
gav
ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

06:50.75
Bevo
Yeah, mate.

06:51.62
gav
Ha ha. Ha

06:56.19
Bevo
At the floor.

06:56.34
Mad Dog
See you later. off

06:57.70
gav
ha ha.

06:57.67
Chibbs
If you were hearing voices, but all they're saying is, like, I really just think you should go to sleep. I don't know, like, if this is, like, the worst possible thing. like Normally the voices are like, burn it down.

07:08.33
Bevo
Kill someone. Kill someone.

07:09.30
gav
So do you,

07:08.69
Chibbs
but Burn it all.

07:10.35
gav
do you Kill someone, Brendan.

07:11.53
Chibbs
Yeah. Brendan, kill someone.

07:13.43
gav
um

07:13.92
Bevo
back

07:13.95
gav
Do you know this?

07:14.43
Bevo
and

07:14.71
gav
There's there's been studies into this. um

07:17.00
Bevo
Brendan, go to sleep.

07:17.17
gav
Schizophrenia in other parts of the world is generally nowhere near as negative as it is in the West.

07:18.37
Bevo
Have a nap.

07:20.08
Chibbs
Yeah.

07:24.25
gav
And in Western society, schizophrenia is almost always, um literally, yes. they do Shit like telling jokes and making you like giving you life advice is common in other parts of the world.

07:37.65
Bevo
Entertaining you.

07:38.40
Chibbs
It's like Gary V is your schizophrenic in a...

07:39.77
gav
And Literally that though. And in the West, there is something about...

07:44.55
Chibbs
Just go to the garage sale, buy shit for cheap, sell it, sell it for more. Oh, okay, right.

07:50.66
Mad Dog
It's like a good imaginary friend.

07:53.09
gav
Exactly that though. And in the West, it's overwhelmingly negative and telling you to do fucked up shit.

07:56.06
Chibbs
Shoot the school up.

07:57.53
gav
And they and they've done...

07:57.38
Chibbs
Okay.

07:59.08
gav
they They study it. They study this fact because it's it's ah it's a measurable thing.

08:01.38
Bevo
but's some

08:02.89
gav
All

08:03.13
Bevo
Let's, Gavin, can can you do a little role play with me?

08:02.75
Chibbs
Okay.

08:05.56
Bevo
You be Rob Thomas.

08:06.93
gav
right.

08:07.19
Bevo
I'll be your voice. Rob, Rob, Rob.

08:09.73
gav
ah I just, yes, yes.

08:12.59
Bevo
Get a good eight hours.

08:14.03
gav
oh I was thinking about just laying here at the ceiling all night.

08:17.89
Bevo
Mate, just um get on the honk shoe train.

08:20.50
gav
I don't know what that means. I'm not a very smart man.

08:23.16
Bevo
You know, the honk shoe train.

08:24.55
gav
i know what you fuck. are Are you asking me Gavin or me Rob Thomas?

08:27.29
Bevo
It's just your voice.

08:27.80
Mad Dog
All right.

08:29.74
gav
You said it like you sounded like you broke character and were like, gavin do you Gavin, do you not know what the honk shoe is?

08:29.03
Chibbs
Yeah, Rob Thomas doesn't know what you're talking about.

08:34.00
Bevo
I don't, I have no, i'm I'm the voice in your head.

08:36.51
gav
ah

08:36.64
Chibbs
He'd be like, ah yeah i don't want to go to now I don't want to go to sleep.

08:37.94
Bevo
I'm the breaking character.

08:38.52
Mad Dog
All

08:40.59
Chibbs
um All my mates are here. Just turn the lamp off, mate.

08:43.48
Mad Dog
right.

08:44.04
Chibbs
Turn the lamp off. Or your friends will be gone.

08:49.01
Mad Dog
All right.

08:49.16
gav
Oh, fuck.

08:49.85
Mad Dog
Fuck is. and there'll be people There'll be people out there that understand me.

08:53.26
gav
I'll tell you.

08:56.78
Mad Dog
if you've If you've had a bit of a night on the powder, you're laying there at the end of the night when everyone's gone to bed and you're staring up at that fucking ceiling.

09:04.82
gav
Yes, skiing. Skiing at the at the snow resort.

09:06.74
Bevo
with his he's

09:07.18
gav
Carry on.

09:16.20
Mad Dog
There's no chance you're going to sleep. And...

09:20.66
Bevo
it looking so unhinged right now

09:20.19
Chibbs
well tomorrow Well, tomorrow might be good for something. The maddening.

09:24.63
Mad Dog
Yeah, and you're hearing voices saying, you're such a fuckwit.

09:25.04
gav
yeah

09:29.76
Mad Dog
yeah youre You worthless human.

09:31.52
Chibbs
me

09:36.50
Bevo
did i send you guys Did I send you guys that meme that's like, if you're having negative self talk, you should change the accent to cockney.

09:36.71
Mad Dog
yeah You should kill yourself.

09:39.49
gav
The pause there was maddening.

09:40.74
Mad Dog
but your your

09:40.44
Chibbs
the mad

09:43.03
gav
ha ha ha ha.

09:43.99
Mad Dog
yeah Your next move here, if this doesn't work out for you, you need to kill yourself.

09:57.78
gav
ah

09:57.78
Bevo
and

09:59.52
gav
well

10:00.10
Bevo
and makes it less severe.

10:01.55
gav
like Less negative. Less less ah easier to deal with.

10:03.65
Bevo
Right. Uh-oh, Gatner.

10:03.68
Chibbs
well but if you make it a south african accent it's more aggressive

10:08.85
gav
it's it's my Yeah, it's far harder to deal with.

10:09.47
Bevo
Can anyone do that? I can't do the South African.

10:11.09
gav
I'll tell you, I think we might have, I mean, I might be reading too far into this, but I think we've skipped over what is clearly the craziest aspect of this.

10:11.14
Mad Dog
right

10:16.77
gav
So he's staring at the ceiling, but he's also casting shadows on the wall if he's making friends with them.

10:18.91
Chibbs
hmm

10:24.52
gav
If he's laying on the floor staring at the ceiling, he's not casting a shadow on the wall, is he? I believe he's standing in the middle of the room just with his face tipped straight towards the ceiling, which is alarmingly crazy.

10:29.11
Chibbs
No.

10:35.03
Chibbs
I like to... That's crazy. That's like an exorcism style shit.

10:41.41
gav
Like, if you walk into a room if you walk into a room and your mate is laying on the floor, just staring at the ceiling, hands behind his head, you're just like, what's up, man?

10:43.64
Chibbs
Just...

10:47.34
gav
You're kicking it? it

10:47.47
Chibbs
Yeah.

10:48.32
gav
If you walk into the room and your mate is standing in the middle of the room with his head tilted all the way back, staring at the ceiling, you are fucking scared.

10:48.75
Chibbs
Standing, staring at the ceiling. man same Yeah, you are scared. the I imagine he has one of those motorised hospital beds sort of thing.

11:02.58
gav
Fuck!

11:02.66
Mad Dog
Yeah.

11:02.34
Chibbs
that he he because yeah He can sleep up.

11:04.38
Mad Dog
Just with with the remote. Beep.

11:07.60
Chibbs
but really oh has city not

11:09.95
gav
yeah

11:09.60
Chibbs
like

11:11.18
Mad Dog
Yeah.

11:12.45
gav
you

11:13.66
Chibbs
Isn't that what all rich, like, famous rich people get? Like, that's the u the ultimate bed is the ultimate bed.

11:17.48
Mad Dog
Oh, absolutely.

11:19.88
Bevo
Like Wallops and Gromit.

11:21.60
Chibbs
Yeah.

11:22.70
Mad Dog
The ultimate bed is like, yeah, contours.

11:24.42
Chibbs
it's the one you're goingnna It's the one you're going to die in pretty much.

11:28.80
Bevo
The bed that makes but can go completely...

11:28.33
Chibbs
Yeah.

11:29.16
gav
maybe Maybe Rob Thomas is some sort of poltergeist and he was like levitating in the middle of the room and that's how he's staring at the ceiling and casting a shadow at the same time.

11:33.20
Mad Dog
Yeah.

11:35.30
Chibbs
it It's entirely possible.

11:40.08
gav
And I imagine he's in the studio and he's writing this lyric and he's like talking to the producer. He's like, you know when you're just like floating in the middle of a room and the producer's like, you mean metaphorically? He's like, no, no, no. like when you Like when you're floating around the room, just just lost in your thoughts.

11:50.54
Mad Dog
yeah No, like,

11:53.02
Bevo
Okay, a little crazy.

11:54.08
Chibbs
ah

11:55.07
Bevo
No, no, no, no.

11:55.52
Mad Dog
yeah

11:57.14
gav
i'm not

11:57.27
Mad Dog
no, like, on the Helix mattress, it feels like you're floating on air.

11:57.83
gav
I'm not crazy. Producers like that's the hook.

12:00.18
Chibbs
There you got it. That's it.

12:06.12
gav
a

12:06.52
Mad Dog
Yeah.

12:07.61
Chibbs
the preco

12:08.47
gav
We are sponsored by Helix, aren't we?

12:09.11
Bevo
Carry on.

12:09.55
Chibbs
The pre-chorus goes, hold on, feeling like I'm heading for a breakdown and I don't know why. on a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

12:19.90
gav
He's on the highway. He's on the highway and his car's he's carl's just making a funny knocking noise under the bonnet.

12:20.49
Chibbs
oh hold on

12:24.14
Chibbs
yeah yeah

12:25.36
Bevo
but

12:27.18
Mad Dog
Hang on a second. I've been staring at the ceiling for 13 hours.

12:31.17
Bevo
The context makes it

12:34.00
Mad Dog
um I may be.

12:35.20
Chibbs
Get headed for a breakdown.

12:38.91
Bevo
funny, I think.

12:38.62
Chibbs
Mate, I've got news.

12:42.61
gav
You broke down.

12:43.62
Mad Dog
here

12:43.78
Chibbs
Here come bad news.

12:44.60
Mad Dog
Here come bad news.

12:49.16
Bevo
ah i'm not

12:49.23
gav
ah

12:48.51
Chibbs
You're crazy.

12:50.42
gav
Did we make that a stinger?

12:50.63
Bevo
um not

12:51.52
gav
Did we make Here Come Bad News a stinger?

12:52.63
Chibbs
Nah, it should be though.

12:53.78
Bevo
ah the context makes it funny i think

12:54.58
gav
That... Yeah, but I think that's the con it was funny in context out of context. I think it will have its own special place.

13:00.97
Chibbs
Maybe.

13:02.64
Bevo
Yeah, I suppose.

13:02.06
Chibbs
I realise that this thing is going on fucking two years.

13:10.12
gav
Ah, yes.

13:10.15
Bevo
Wow.

13:10.42
Mad Dog
oh right

13:10.87
Chibbs
Yeah, it was 2023.

13:12.16
Bevo
The most useful one. Right.

13:14.13
Chibbs
Yeah.

13:15.01
Mad Dog
I'll be fucking you.

13:16.84
Chibbs
Yeah.

13:18.08
Bevo
um Yeah, I'm not a doctor, but I reckon I would put it down to no sleep is probably making sure.

13:23.32
Chibbs
Yeah, just try and get, try and get six hours and then just see how you feel in the mornings.

13:25.24
gav
yeah i

13:27.88
Bevo
Get some... ah

13:30.76
Mad Dog
I'm telling you, this is drugs.

13:31.80
Bevo
Do you want to

13:32.17
Chibbs
You reckon? There's no way Rob Thomas is doing drugs.

13:34.10
Mad Dog
Absolutely.

13:37.76
Mad Dog
Are you kidding me?

13:40.04
Chibbs
No.

13:41.92
Mad Dog
Absolutely. This is absolutely this is this is a drug-induced lyric writing session, and I will not hear anything other than that.

13:43.96
Chibbs
Him and Carlos Santana.

13:55.12
Chibbs
I think he's just in touch with his...

13:57.92
gav
I think he's just emotionally intelligent.

13:58.80
Bevo
you want to can i Can I read some stuff to you?

14:02.62
Chibbs
Yeah.

14:03.66
Mad Dog
Okay.

14:04.31
Bevo
It's just the first result on Google, so take it as you will.

14:06.86
Mad Dog
Of course he's not going to admit it.

14:08.83
Bevo
I was someone who did cocaine so I could stay awake and drink and eat more, he reveals.

14:11.78
Mad Dog
Bang, bang.

14:12.91
Bevo
I was the only person in the world that did cocaine and just got fatter and fatter and fatter.

14:17.59
gav
ah That is...

14:17.61
Chibbs
ah

14:19.28
Bevo
I'm not proud of those times. It's just a matter of fact. I'm so glad to be on the other side of that. Now Rob continues. That was in 2023. Uh, and then also just the next result, Rob Thomas has admitted to doing so much coke during the first two years with his band matchbox 20. He can can't remember a thing during that whole period.

14:36.99
Chibbs
Doggy's onto it.

14:38.77
Mad Dog
Thank you very much.

14:39.10
gav
That's pretty well done. Pretty well done. um Strange crossover. Speaking of Doggy, when Stephen King wrote, um was it Cud Cujo? The book about the dog?

14:47.72
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah

14:49.37
gav
He was so coked out of his mind, he doesn't remember writing it.

14:50.09
Bevo
I yeah

14:52.77
gav
he's He's just like, looks...

14:52.42
Chibbs
ah Apparently doesn't remember riding heaps of those ones.

14:56.51
gav
That's, yeah, not surprising.

14:56.24
Chibbs
once

14:57.75
Mad Dog
It's pretty mad, eh, Annie?

14:59.24
gav
Yeah.

14:59.95
Mad Dog
But um I will accept apologies at some stage throughout the podcast. Thank you, boys. But I i called it.

15:06.68
Bevo
i and had nothing to do with that.

15:06.78
gav
going to eat the frog. I'm sorry, Mad Dog. You were right.

15:10.13
Mad Dog
I called it.

15:10.69
Chibbs
I've just put, so I'm just doing a little experiment here.

15:11.44
Mad Dog
But.

15:13.33
Chibbs
I've put the chorus in the chat GPT and said, give me a diagnosis.

15:19.40
gav
ah

15:19.61
Chibbs
Um,

15:20.41
Bevo
you got to read the chorus first because we're not up to it.

15:22.18
Chibbs
Okay, well, let me read the chorus and then I'll give you what what the the diagnosis is.

15:24.59
gav
Read the chorus. Let us know what Dr. AI says.

15:27.08
Chibbs
Okay, the chorus goes, the chorus goes, but I'm not crazy.

15:28.46
Mad Dog
Doch, doch.

15:31.87
Chibbs
I'm just a little unwell. I know right now you can't tell, but stay a while and maybe then you'll see ah different side of me. I'm not crazy.

15:42.67
Chibbs
I'm just a little impaired. i know right now you don't care, but soon enough you're going to think of me and how I used to be.

15:45.81
Mad Dog
yeah

15:52.97
Bevo
Hmm. It's confusing because when he says, i know right now you can't tell, is he saying you can't tell he's not crazy or you can't tell that he's sick?

16:03.98
Chibbs
yeah

16:05.05
Mad Dog
Yes. Yes.

16:05.67
Chibbs
Yeah.

16:07.45
Bevo
And then it's like, stay a while and maybe then you'll see a different side of me.

16:07.52
gav
Yeah.

16:06.81
Chibbs
um

16:10.40
Bevo
Is that the unwell side or is that the crazy side is it the not crazy side?

16:13.85
Chibbs
Well, apparently apparently he's um

16:16.75
Bevo
I'm so confused.

16:18.41
Chibbs
he's ah

16:21.15
gav
No.

16:20.43
Chibbs
suffering from adjustment disorder with mixed anxiety and depressed mood. Yeah.

16:26.86
Bevo
Okay. Okay.

16:27.00
gav
Jesus.

16:27.17
Mad Dog
yes

16:28.60
gav
No, that's, i mean, it's a fair question though, Bevo, but I think he's saying that right now he's not too bad, but he's heading downhill.

16:28.90
Chibbs
Yeah.

16:35.89
Bevo
okay

16:35.91
gav
And that in a while you'll think back to this point where he's just a bit unwell, like, oh, that those were the good days. That's that's what that reads like.

16:42.07
Chibbs
yeah We really thought that was rock bottom, but it's not.

16:45.62
gav
We thought, yeah.

16:45.98
Chibbs
It's now that he's sucking off dudes in an alleyway

16:50.32
Mad Dog
AI it. So this podcast...

16:51.55
gav
um

16:52.84
Bevo
I of asking AI for medical advice.

16:53.30
gav
There's...

16:55.10
Bevo
My doctor actually recommended that to me recently. He said, don't Google it, AI it.

16:57.61
Chibbs
To do that?

16:58.67
gav
What's sucking up? Wait, what?

16:59.51
Chibbs
so Sucking a dude off in an alleyway.

17:01.17
Mad Dog
a yeah

17:03.11
gav
Wow.

17:03.38
Bevo
You know when you're like you're sick or something's wrong and you Google it and it's like you are dying.

17:06.77
Chibbs
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:08.07
Bevo
And if you go ai it's it's a bit more accurate.

17:07.72
Chibbs
Yeah.

17:10.64
Mad Dog
yeah um so this this podcast

17:11.33
Chibbs
the

17:13.71
Bevo
This is not medical advice. Please do not take my medical advice.

17:16.33
gav
ah

17:16.36
Mad Dog
yeah

17:17.03
gav
ah

17:17.89
Mad Dog
But this this podcast has always been um big on the crazy.

17:25.25
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah.

17:26.04
Bevo
That's why that's why i picked the...

17:26.76
Mad Dog
So so this is there's a difference between the crazy and the unwell.

17:26.25
Chibbs
Crazy comes up a lot.

17:27.21
Bevo
Yeah.

17:27.83
gav
that That's why this song was chosen, for sure.

17:30.20
Bevo
yeah

17:32.27
Mad Dog
So I feel like crazy is complete insanity and unwell, you've got a sniffle.

17:36.25
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah, it's a full sniffle. Sniffle, yeah, a sniffle or fucking straitjacket are so far away from each other.

17:40.39
Bevo
A little unwell, too.

17:42.06
gav
Yeah. Yeah.

17:45.97
Bevo
bit queasy.

17:46.20
Mad Dog
e

17:46.27
Chibbs
And then it's just the, it's like, you know, you'll see, it's a different side of me.

17:47.14
gav
Yeah.

17:47.32
Bevo
Hmm.

17:50.40
Chibbs
It's like, yeah, but what way is it going to go? Like, are you just, are you getting a sore throat now as well?

17:53.20
Mad Dog
Yeah. ah It's all right.

17:54.70
Chibbs
or are you going kill everyone?

17:56.49
gav
hu ah ah

17:58.97
Mad Dog
I'll take a Panadol and I won't try to be gnawing my elbow off.

18:00.65
Bevo
yeah

18:03.15
Mad Dog
Yeah.

18:03.82
gav
um I think we can elaborate on this because in quite a rare circumstance, we have a verified genius annotation from Rob Thomas himself.

18:12.42
Bevo
Yeah. From right from old Roto himself.

18:13.20
Chibbs
Oh, Rob. What did he say? right.

18:16.82
gav
So um Roto, nice one.

18:17.31
Mad Dog
Roto.

18:19.68
gav
You spotted this one too, Bevo, did you?

18:21.26
Bevo
Yeah, I did.

18:22.13
gav
Yeah. um So he's...

18:22.79
Bevo
Speaking of that, um, Lindsay, Lindsay on the, on the bonus episode had his own annotation too.

18:26.85
Mad Dog
prior

18:28.44
gav
That's dope.

18:27.96
Chibbs
um right

18:29.18
Bevo
Yeah.

18:29.82
gav
um So the line that he has annotated is, I'm not crazy. I'm just a little impaired. And the annotation reads, I thought impaired was a cool word you didn't hear in a lot of songs. I don't think we would have gotten airplay if we said fucked up.

18:44.41
gav
We were partying, but it was in a grander sense. It was like, I'm a little bit rusty. I'm a little bit impaired. It was the grander sense. I'm stunted as a human.

18:55.00
Bevo
how

18:55.14
gav
Which is such a great way to end an annotation. I'm stunted as a human.

18:57.13
Chibbs
It is. I'm not crazy. I'm just fuck-eyed.

19:02.28
gav
Yeah, ah

19:02.99
Chibbs
ah So, yeah, he is saying this is like a, it's a coke-fueled, like, ah insanity.

19:14.34
gav
seems to be.

19:15.16
Bevo
Well, i think we're going with that, aren't we?

19:14.65
Chibbs
Right.

19:17.03
Chibbs
Yeah, I wouldn't have picked it. um And the whole thing, if I know right now you don't care, that's me. That would be if anyone near me went crazy, I'd just be like, I don't have time for this.

19:29.89
Chibbs
ah This is very inconvenient.

19:30.69
Bevo
and Right now.

19:31.93
Chibbs
This is very inconvenient to me. ah I don't care. You but go be crazy. Go be crazy wherever you want. Yeah. Yeah, soon soon enough you're going to think of me and how I used to be.

19:41.70
Mad Dog
Yeah.

19:44.70
Chibbs
it just really does seem like I am going batshit nuts and I'm never coming back. I'm never going to come back.

19:52.28
Mad Dog
Yeah.

19:55.08
Bevo
Yeah. Soon enough, you're going to think of me and how I used to be. So it's like, there's no, no plans to get back to where you were.

19:57.08
Chibbs
Yeah.

19:58.02
Mad Dog
yeah you

19:59.74
Chibbs
Remember when Rob used to be able to just use the toilet inside?

20:00.78
Bevo
Yeah.

20:02.95
Chibbs
Yeah.

20:04.07
Mad Dog
ah

20:04.53
gav
ah

20:04.70
Mad Dog
You've tipped past the scale and, like, we're abandoning you.

20:06.93
Chibbs
Yeah.

20:10.32
Mad Dog
You're fucked up and gone.

20:10.56
Chibbs
yeah Have you noticed that Rob always stinks of human excrement every time he comes?

20:12.63
Mad Dog
Yeah.

20:15.49
Mad Dog
Yeah.

20:15.70
Chibbs
i think he's shitting himself.

20:17.65
Mad Dog
That's right.

20:18.30
Chibbs
Yeah.

20:19.51
Mad Dog
Oh, here comes Cousin Feces Rob for Christmas again.

20:18.82
Chibbs
it's but

20:21.82
Chibbs
Yeah. Fuck, I remember he used to just be so clean cut.

20:25.10
Mad Dog
hey

20:26.13
Chibbs
Now he shits himself in public.

20:27.04
gav
um

20:27.30
Mad Dog
yeah

20:29.07
gav
Did you guys ever watch It's Always Sunny?

20:30.70
Chibbs
Yeah.

20:32.32
gav
did you Do you remember you remember the episode with Rob Thomas in it?

20:32.33
Mad Dog
Fucking oath.

20:34.72
Chibbs
Yes.

20:36.60
gav
Him and Sinbad are...

20:37.26
Chibbs
Him and Sindad in the mental institution.

20:40.29
gav
Yes, exactly.

20:41.33
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:44.86
Bevo
Speaking of that, here's a weird, here's a weird, like full, like comes around thing.

20:44.37
Chibbs
Yes.

20:45.95
gav
and

20:50.54
Bevo
I'm currently watching one flew over the cuckoo's nest.

20:53.58
gav
ah Oh, so fucking good.

20:52.96
Chibbs
Oh.

20:53.77
Bevo
Do you know who's in that?

20:54.38
Mad Dog
Oh.

20:55.55
Chibbs
Rob Thomas.

20:56.32
Bevo
fuck Danny DeVito.

20:57.18
Chibbs
Danny DeVito's in it.

20:58.37
Mad Dog
Is he?

20:58.00
Chibbs
Yeah, he is.

20:58.77
Bevo
Yeah. It's like his first role. Yeah.

21:01.26
gav
o

21:01.32
Mad Dog
Actually, ah this is another weird thing.

21:00.92
Chibbs
Yeah.

21:04.78
Mad Dog
Do you know the film Gaslight, where the term gaslighting came from?

21:08.59
Bevo
you do gaslight you've seen gaslight haven't yeah

21:13.61
gav
ah Nice one, Bevo.

21:14.30
Mad Dog
What? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

21:20.20
Bevo
you know gaslight yeah no yeah oh yeah

21:20.25
Mad Dog
So Gaslight, right?

21:23.03
gav
yeah

21:24.36
Mad Dog
um

21:24.47
gav
I'm always talking about Gaslight.

21:27.42
Mad Dog
So Angela Lansbury is in it.

21:32.83
Bevo
Yeah, cool.

21:32.24
Chibbs
Okay.

21:33.00
gav
of Where would I know her from?

21:33.95
Bevo
Of Mrs.

21:34.43
gav
I don't know her.

21:36.01
Bevo
Potts in Beauty and the Beast.

21:37.18
Chibbs
Yeah.

21:38.10
gav
Oh, fuck.

21:38.73
Mad Dog
Chibsy knows who.

21:39.25
Chibbs
but mad Murder, she wrote.

21:41.03
Bevo
Murder, She Wrote.

21:41.67
Mad Dog
Murder, she wrote.

21:41.93
Bevo
Yeah, yeah.

21:42.46
gav
Oh, okay.

21:42.51
Mad Dog
Murder, she wrote.

21:43.78
gav
Yep, yep, yep, yep.

21:43.70
Chibbs
You know, um little little fun fact about Cookies Nest.

21:49.25
Bevo
Yeah, um no spoilers because i'm only like 20 minutes in.

21:50.45
Chibbs
Oh, no, it's not a spoiler. It's not a spoiler. It's... um

21:53.95
gav
The way it ends is...

21:53.61
Chibbs
ah

21:55.36
Bevo
christ Christopher Lloyd's in it too.

21:55.70
Chibbs
so

21:56.67
Bevo
Yeah.

21:56.48
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, but boss it's Michael Douglas's only Oscar. is he's a producer. He produced it.

22:05.90
Bevo
Yeah, right. Oh, there you go.

22:06.91
Mad Dog
Get the hell out.

22:06.98
gav
ah

22:07.20
Chibbs
Michael Douglas. Yeah. Before he had an acting part, he, cause he's, cause he's, because he's a Nepo baby.

22:10.65
Bevo
For his Ant-Man.

22:14.24
Mad Dog
Oh, he's a nepo.

22:13.59
Chibbs
He's, is yeah. Well, Michael Kirk, Kirk Douglas is Michael Douglas's father.

22:17.12
Bevo
Douglas, yeah.

22:18.01
Chibbs
So he was in the industry and he produced, he bought the, he bought the rights to the book and everything and produce that movie as like a 20 year old.

22:25.43
gav
Fuck.

22:26.22
Bevo
Yeah.

22:27.46
Mad Dog
Michael Douglas is pretty good actor, but I don't mind him.

22:29.13
Chibbs
Yeah. He's great. He's great.

22:31.06
Mad Dog
Yeah.

22:31.47
Chibbs
Yeah, but yeah, there you go.

22:32.34
Mad Dog
Yeah.

22:32.59
Chibbs
little pub trivia.

22:34.80
Bevo
He plays that tall Indian guy.

22:34.92
Mad Dog
Yeah.

22:34.96
gav
That is good pub trivia.

22:36.36
Bevo
don't

22:37.46
Chibbs
What?

22:39.58
Bevo
know, you have to see. There's a tall American Indian, Native native American.

22:41.53
Chibbs
all the American Indian. Yeah, yeaha yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:43.83
gav
Yeah, yeah.

22:44.17
Chibbs
I was like, wait, what?

22:45.23
Bevo
That was a joke.

22:45.81
Chibbs
Indian as in TP or curry?

22:47.68
Bevo
It was a joke because he looks nothing like

22:49.34
Chibbs
What Indian? Yeah.

22:51.99
Mad Dog
ah

22:51.42
Chibbs
yeah

22:52.83
Mad Dog
Are we talking about tapeys here or what?

22:53.90
Bevo
it. Carry on. Carry on. Carry on.

22:55.62
Chibbs
First two.

22:56.35
gav
That's like the way more racist version of Dots or Feathers. But but neither is good, but...

22:59.41
Bevo
ah yeah Okay, all right. Carry on.

23:01.82
Chibbs
First two, me. I'm talking to myself in public and dodging glances on the train. And I know, i know they've all been talking about me.

23:12.51
Chibbs
I can hear them whisper and it makes me think there must be something wrong.

23:17.53
Bevo
and This guy's definitely on the fucking Wollongong near the Warrer T4.

23:19.01
Chibbs
Well, yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's at DAPTO station.

23:24.72
Mad Dog
He's just scratching scabs off his neck.

23:25.38
Bevo
Yeah.

23:26.60
gav
Yeah.

23:27.16
Bevo
I've seen this guy many times before on the train station.

23:31.53
gav
Um,

23:32.28
Bevo
This is why I don't take public transport anymore.

23:31.72
Chibbs
hope Rob Thomas?

23:32.55
gav
yeah

23:35.64
Bevo
Rob Thomas, the tank engine.

23:35.74
Mad Dog
Yeah.

23:35.78
gav
ah hu

23:37.87
Mad Dog
It's just like just a guy at fucking Unidera Station just fucking scratching the fuck like his neck tattoo off his neck and like Robb.

23:51.19
Bevo
That's why they have blue lights in the toilets at the train station.

23:52.83
Mad Dog
ra

23:55.51
Bevo
This guy.

23:55.69
Mad Dog
Yeah. Is that you, Rob?

23:55.66
Chibbs
thank Speaking of funny train memes, um did I send you the one, Bevo, that had ah thomas a Thomas the Tank Engine, but it was like scuba edition, and he's got a mask over his head?

23:58.53
Mad Dog
Yeah.

24:06.98
Bevo
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:07.89
Chibbs
It's like the fact that Thomas needs a mask to underwater means he has lungs and blood.

24:13.72
Bevo
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:13.54
Chibbs
LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

24:14.82
Mad Dog
Yeah.

24:14.91
Bevo
I think about this all the time because my... my son My son went through a massive Thomas phase and like I'd watch it a lot with him. And like there's times when, when they blow their whistles, they squeeze their faces if they have to like flex a muscle.

24:29.59
Bevo
play the wisdom

24:30.21
gav
Oh, my God. That's alarming. You

24:38.81
Bevo
You can't, you can't think about this stuff too much. it's

24:42.78
Chibbs
Just the train having lungs and blood is so fucking good.

24:43.64
Bevo
And then like the

24:47.26
gav
Holy shit.

24:49.79
Bevo
They also, they have

24:50.27
gav
you have broken mad dog a holy

24:51.47
Chibbs
Yeah.

24:53.31
Bevo
this is Thomas trains have drivers, which is like, does that mean they just can't move if they don't have someone operating them?

24:55.12
gav
is

25:00.06
Chibbs
Yeah, I don't know.

25:00.94
Mad Dog
you're saying.

25:00.96
Chibbs
Yeah, but I don't know.

25:01.77
gav
in them oh fuck

25:02.32
Bevo
There's

25:03.54
Mad Dog
Their eyes go inwards and like...

25:06.00
Bevo
some, one thing you can do listeners and and guys is Google like Thomas, the tank engine screenshots. Cause some of the still images are fucking funny.

25:17.66
gav
ah

25:20.36
Chibbs
Yeah.

25:21.12
Bevo
Anyway, I'll try and find something for you and put it in the chat.

25:21.48
gav
um yeah let's we'll drop them in the chat yeah

25:21.15
Chibbs
Yeah.

25:23.62
Chibbs
He's, um, he's, yeah, but basically he's got to, by verse two, he's lost his goddamn mind. Yeah.

25:31.17
gav
Ha ha ha ha ha.

25:31.85
Chibbs
And he's just talking to himself and paranoid that people are hearing, like he's hearing whispers everywhere. Like, like that's, that's what it is.

25:39.93
Mad Dog
And there's no other lyrics.

25:42.26
Chibbs
It's like, you know, it makes me think there might be something wrong. Although that, see, that doesn't sound crazy. Like, because I can't, I don't think a crazy, crazy person is thinking, oh, I think, I think I'm, I think I'm being a bit crazy.

25:51.57
Mad Dog
Yeah, he's self-aware.

25:53.39
Chibbs
Yeah.

25:54.37
Mad Dog
He's self-aware.

25:55.41
Bevo
Thank you.

25:55.54
gav
um

25:55.76
Mad Dog
Yeah.

25:56.53
gav
I feel like in this one song I've seen ah on Genius, I've seen ah great annotation by the artist themselves.

26:02.70
Chibbs
Yeah.

26:03.54
gav
And then the very next, ah ah basically the next annotation is this ah the the start of this verse. I'm talking to myself in public and dodging glances on the train. Someone has annotated this at the opposite end of the spectrum.

26:16.35
gav
The patient is talking to them in public and he's dodging away the people that stare at them and thinking they're crazy.

26:24.87
Chibbs
yeah It's wild that a wild that a crazy person managed to get onto Unwell.

26:25.84
gav
which Which has...

26:29.59
gav
ten

26:28.95
Chibbs
What matchbook's 20 on genius?

26:32.86
Mad Dog
Ha ha!

26:32.96
gav
and it only has downvotes. It doesn't have a single thumbs up.

26:35.30
Chibbs
Yeah, they're just like, why?

26:36.27
Bevo
ah The one with like 12 downvotes.

26:38.32
gav
It's got 12 downvotes, which is a lot.

26:38.36
Chibbs
Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot of effort to do that.

26:43.30
gav
There's about 15 people with a Genius account.

26:45.51
Chibbs
Yeah.

26:46.34
gav
So almost all of them have downvoted that fucking annotation.

26:48.52
Chibbs
Yeah. Fuck me. There's another pre-chorus that says, with me out of all the hours thinking somehow I've lost my mind.

27:02.58
gav
god

27:02.17
Chibbs
There's not enough. You don't get, like, we hear crazy a lot in songs, but we don't get full-blown, full-blown, yeah, like institutionalized, lock me up, i am a change the society, crazy.

27:08.19
Mad Dog
Yeah.

27:09.10
Bevo
This is clinical. This is real.

27:10.43
gav
Yeah, yeah.

27:11.93
Bevo
Yeah.

27:14.98
gav
it Which, we're getting a real, but I'm sensing bipolar. I think AI's misdiagnosed him. This has got be bipolar because in the verses, in the chorus, he's like, I'm not crazy. I'm just a little unwell.

27:26.02
Chibbs
Not well.

27:27.09
Mad Dog
He's, yeah.

27:27.12
gav
And then in the verses, it's full psychosis.

27:28.23
Chibbs
ah just like on I'm talking to myself on the train.

27:29.59
gav
It's just,

27:33.23
Bevo
yeah

27:33.29
Mad Dog
He is making a case for himself here.

27:32.70
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah.

27:36.79
Mad Dog
Yeah.

27:36.83
gav
Yeah. I mean, if if you're a little unwell, you need like a good night's sleep and a few square meals, maybe a bit more fucking water.

27:43.86
Mad Dog
and

27:44.41
Bevo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:44.75
gav
This guy needs sedation.

27:44.84
Chibbs
ah Hydrate.

27:45.78
Mad Dog
that

27:45.82
Chibbs
Hydrate.

27:46.65
Bevo
bit exercise and vitamin D.

27:46.06
Chibbs
Yeah.

27:47.61
Mad Dog
but But also trying to play it down a little bit.

27:48.15
Bevo
Yeah.

27:48.61
gav
Yeah. Yeah.

27:50.29
Mad Dog
Like, I'm just a little unwell. Not like, yeah.

27:52.88
Chibbs
Yeah.

27:55.35
Mad Dog
um Yeah, just fucking pad me up. Yeah.

28:01.03
Chibbs
pa me ah because he he smasteres another he smashes He smashes another chorus out.

28:06.41
gav
Straight, straight my jacket.

28:10.19
Chibbs
He he' still he doesn't think he's crazy. He's just done well.

28:13.68
Mad Dog
Oh,

28:13.13
Chibbs
He gets to a bridge and the bridge says, I've been talking in my sleep.

28:14.89
Bevo
this is This is the best bit, I think.

28:17.78
Chibbs
Pretty soon they'll come to get me. Yeah, they're taking me away.

28:24.29
Mad Dog
baby.

28:24.32
gav
yeah He sounds pretty nonchalant about it, hey?

28:27.07
Chibbs
he's just, he talked to himself all the way home and he just walked inside and went,

28:28.18
Bevo
Yeah.

28:28.55
gav
Yeah, they're taking me away. Yep, they're coming.

28:34.87
Chibbs
Well, now I'm crazy.

28:36.22
gav
yeah they And they're coming to get me.

28:39.79
Mad Dog
i get

28:41.46
Chibbs
It's like what flynn like when Flanders, like, fucking finally loses his mind and just drives to the insane asylum.

28:42.22
Mad Dog
i be

28:42.69
gav
Reminds me, um...

28:47.69
Bevo
ah Yeah, yeah,

28:47.59
Chibbs
Drives, and he smashes through the front gate, like, in the car.

28:54.50
gav
Ha ha ha ha...

28:55.54
Mad Dog
a I've been talking in my sleep.

28:58.88
Chibbs
so Yeah. They're coming to get me now. It's like, mate, that was nowhere near the craziest thing you've done in this song.

29:05.09
Mad Dog
Yeah.

29:08.32
Chibbs
Yeah.

29:10.51
gav
Ha ha ha.

29:12.03
Mad Dog
And just a nonchalant, yeah, they're taking me away.

29:11.63
Chibbs
yeah

29:14.51
Chibbs
ah his's what his wife's like His wife's like, honey, honey, you you're talking in your sleep.

29:16.03
gav
Ha

29:19.56
Chibbs
He's like, ah, fuck. Well, ring ring the hospital.

29:24.62
Mad Dog
yeah

29:24.85
gav
ha ha.

29:25.68
Mad Dog
Have I been saying crazy shit?

29:25.00
Chibbs
I i can't be trusted. ah can't be trusted to be here anymore.

29:30.17
gav
Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

29:31.62
Mad Dog
but

29:31.07
Chibbs
there

29:31.89
gav
<unk>

29:31.58
Chibbs
that that was it yeah right right it's like right yet yesterday yesterday you were having a party in the room because the lamp was on and or and and and you thought and you thought you were just unwell now you talked in your sleep and you need to go to the fucking mental mental institution yeah nah that's true yeah

29:40.42
Bevo
It's your odds. Yeah.

29:41.55
gav
ah ah

29:42.45
Bevo
odds

29:47.44
gav
and although it doesn't specify what he said in his sleep and that's that's making me that's making me think whatever it is is probably deeply concerning i

29:53.15
Mad Dog
That's what I'm saying.

29:53.80
Bevo
yeah

29:55.80
Chibbs
What you reckon is? Get the shovel, Rob. Get the shovel. Dig the hole.

30:00.78
Mad Dog
you' like

30:02.08
gav
ah

30:02.09
Mad Dog
yeah If you're laying in bed next to your significant other, yeah, what do you say?

30:01.75
Chibbs
Dig the hole. Put everyone underground.

30:05.77
gav
they'll never find them in the woods

30:08.32
Bevo
I've got umve got a good feeling about this collaboration with Carlos Santana.

30:09.70
Mad Dog
Yeah.

30:13.15
gav
yeah

30:13.75
Bevo
All right, crazy.

30:13.85
Chibbs
He's just in his sleep it's just going...

30:14.63
Bevo
Let's go.

30:16.52
Chibbs
Do do do do

30:26.08
gav
but ah Just a straight jacket rocking backwards and forwards.

30:29.17
Chibbs
Oh, no. He's lost his goddamn mind.

30:33.69
gav
Because...

30:33.75
Bevo
like seven inches from the midday swan.

30:38.31
Chibbs
He's got to stop. He's got to stop. I thought push was bad. He's got to stop. 3 a.m.? You fucking lunatic. Yeah.

30:49.75
Mad Dog
Oh, son!

30:51.08
Bevo
Just like ocean.

30:54.06
Mad Dog
ocean shu

30:55.97
gav
not a moon Oh, wait, that's Minic Mimit.

30:57.14
Chibbs
Oh, sorry, sorry.

30:59.24
gav
Minic Mimit? Minic Mimit.

31:04.79
Bevo
Oh, there it is.

31:05.31
gav
minni mimi

31:07.07
Bevo
I'm not crazy. I'm just a little unwale.

31:09.69
Mad Dog
london

31:12.80
gav
I'll tell you what I wish. I wish you had this song. I'm not crazy. I'm just a little unwell. And then Santana just comes blitzing in with a solo.

31:26.78
gav
Just like shrieking face melting solo.

31:27.33
Chibbs
You just hear bongos, bongos in a fucking PRS. let's see

31:33.61
Bevo
Speaking that, I was going to mention that it's unique in this song that we have a banjo hook.

31:38.34
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah.

31:39.90
Bevo
Yeah. First banjo hook since, uh,

31:40.86
Chibbs
I think I did write that down in the production bit that I'm like, Banjo Hook.

31:44.55
gav
i I touch on it. I touch on it at one point.

31:45.88
Bevo
since cotton eye Joe.

31:45.24
Chibbs
Strange. Yeah. ah The outro goes,

31:48.68
Mad Dog
What do you mean?

31:48.79
Chibbs
Hey, I used used to be how i used to be well, I'm just a little unwell. How I used to be, how I used to be, I'm just a little unwell. That's it.

32:00.78
Chibbs
That's it.

32:02.61
gav
I mean, if he was saying that in his sleep, I'd still be fucking concerned.

32:05.44
Chibbs
Yeah, that's true, yeah.

32:06.44
gav
like that none None of these lyrics would sound great at 3

32:09.73
Chibbs
god no no no uh it was released on the 3rd of february 2003 that is 511 days after the towers fell it's hot tight yeah it is solely written by rob thomas yep

32:22.29
gav
Okay, quite soon. Quite soon after.

32:24.18
Mad Dog
Rayson. Rayson.

32:25.84
gav
Yeah. Yep.

32:29.83
Bevo
yeah I wonder if that's why he's the only guy in the video.

32:33.09
Chibbs
yeah this is like one of those um

32:34.67
gav
No, he's not. Hang on Were you looking the right video?

32:37.87
Bevo
Maybe I haven't watched the whole video.

32:39.82
gav
Ha ha ha ha.

32:41.04
Chibbs
um So, apparently, Rob Thomas went on the Howard Stern Show and went into a whole story about how he was abducted by aliens as a child.

32:50.56
Bevo
Oh, yep.

32:51.17
Mad Dog
Are you serious?

32:51.63
Bevo
Okay. He is a little crazy.

32:51.47
Chibbs
Yeah.

32:53.03
Bevo
Right.

32:53.51
Mad Dog
So he is crazy.

32:54.46
Bevo
Say less.

32:54.03
Chibbs
A little bit crazy.

32:55.08
Bevo
Yeah.

32:55.13
Mad Dog
and

32:56.16
Chibbs
Or he got abducted by aliens. I don't know. But one or the other. He believes it happened. And, um yeah, it's that whole...

33:03.99
Mad Dog
Actually, he's just a little unwell.

33:05.95
Chibbs
Apparently he um he isolated himself in New York and said he was going through a weird mental phase when he wrote this song.

33:16.87
Bevo
Mm-hmm.

33:17.22
Chibbs
So it's interesting.

33:18.08
Bevo
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

33:18.49
Chibbs
Yeah, that tracks.

33:20.33
Mad Dog
Yeah, he was fucked up on drugs.

33:20.35
Chibbs
Yeah.

33:22.96
Mad Dog
That's what he was.

33:22.33
Chibbs
Yeah.

33:24.18
gav
I love the concept of isolating in New York as in a city with eight fucking million people.

33:23.85
Chibbs
Yeah.

33:30.18
gav
Yeah.

33:29.47
Chibbs
Isolated.

33:30.40
gav
Super isolated, dude.

33:31.11
Chibbs
Real isolated.

33:31.88
gav
That's, that's, that's yeah. Isolated in fucking Coober Pedy or something, man.

33:33.29
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah. They considered using the line, I'm not crazy as the title of a live album.

33:44.41
Bevo
you

33:44.99
Mad Dog
Yeah, good they didn't go with that.

33:45.93
gav
Yeah. Yeah.

33:47.03
Chibbs
I'm not crazy.

33:48.27
Mad Dog
but

33:48.42
Chibbs
Live. Matchbox 20 live. I'm not crazy.

33:51.95
Mad Dog
yeah I am not crazy.

33:54.24
Chibbs
It's like, nah, you can't. I imagine someone at the record label was like, No. and hey

34:00.08
Mad Dog
but

34:01.23
gav
ah um

34:01.36
Mad Dog
Someone.

34:01.08
Chibbs
yeah

34:03.38
gav
Oh, have you ever seen that... Oh, fuck, what's his name? Late night TV show host. Fuck it, we'll do it live.

34:08.77
Bevo
Letterman. um Yeah.

34:09.49
gav
let Was it...

34:10.18
Bevo
Bill.

34:11.35
gav
Bill O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly.

34:11.44
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah

34:12.35
Bevo
Yeah. Yeah.

34:13.36
gav
um There was a, obviously there's the the famous, famous to be memed clip of um Bill O'Reilly getting pissed off about Sting playing them out and screaming, fuck it, we'll do it live.

34:16.50
Chibbs
yeah.

34:19.40
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah.

34:25.67
gav
And um the Murder Dolls, or at least Wednesday 13, but I believe the Murder Dolls did a live album and called it, fuck it, we'll do it live. Which I just think is so fun.

34:31.22
Chibbs
That's great.

34:32.10
Bevo
Did

34:33.46
Chibbs
That's almost as good as NoFX's first live album that's called I Heard They Suck Live.

34:39.76
gav
oh

34:40.46
Mad Dog
And it was freaking awesome.

34:41.86
Chibbs
It's heaps good.

34:42.80
Bevo
you ever see that, um the Beastie Boys one that's called Awesome?

34:44.01
Mad Dog
Yeah.

34:45.47
Bevo
I fucking shot that because they gave the audience, like members of the audience cameras to shoot the whole concert.

34:50.97
Chibbs
Oh, man.

34:51.87
gav
Oh, sick.

34:52.48
Bevo
So there's professional bits, but then there's bits where there's like guys in the audience just filming their perspective and stuff.

34:54.79
Chibbs
Yeah. ah the butter The Butterfly Effect did that here in Australia and Dan got chosen as one of the camera people to go into the shows.

35:02.61
Bevo
Oh, you're right. yeah

35:02.97
Chibbs
Yeah.

35:04.51
Bevo
Yeah, sick.

35:04.67
gav
um Also, fucking shout out the Butterfly Effect. They are an Australian band that you fucking... You just don't get enough love, I reckon. Remember Crave?

35:13.31
Chibbs
Nah, the first album was done first the album was great.

35:14.04
Mad Dog
Yeah.

35:14.42
gav
they They had some fucking really good songs. They were...

35:16.69
Mad Dog
Yep.

35:17.44
Chibbs
Yeah.

35:18.22
gav
They were like kind of right at the start of that, like Australia's, um well, I guess that was kind of like the alternative wave that came through in like the early 2000s.

35:18.94
Mad Dog
Yeah.

35:26.69
gav
They were kind of early early days of that, right?

35:27.14
Chibbs
Yeah, that was the Aussie Deftones. Yeah. Yeah.

35:30.42
gav
Yeah.

35:30.91
Mad Dog
Yeah.

35:31.10
gav
That's a good shout.

35:30.39
Chibbs
yeah

35:31.83
Mad Dog
yeah

35:31.97
gav
I'm going to have to pump their fucking first album. That was a banger.

35:33.44
Chibbs
yeah sam First sound is really good. um It's produced by Matt Ser...

35:35.90
gav
Yeah.

35:38.98
Bevo
Box 20.

35:40.55
gav
Yeah.

35:41.77
Mad Dog
but what

35:41.21
Chibbs
Matt... Matt Serletic? Matt Serletic.

35:44.36
gav
Where's Jungkook on that one? surely that's ah Surely that was ripe for a fuck.

35:46.65
Chibbs
Yeah.

35:49.02
Mad Dog
Yeah.

35:48.70
Chibbs
Yeah, so...

35:49.43
gav
Oh my god. oh

35:51.97
Mad Dog
Ha ha ha ha

35:52.69
gav
ah

35:54.16
Chibbs
ah oh yeah so

35:58.17
Mad Dog
so

35:57.77
Chibbs
so so what He produced both of Matchbox... Oh! hey He produced Matchbox 20 and Santana.

36:07.38
Mad Dog
that'

36:08.08
Bevo
Ah.

36:08.58
Chibbs
ah Yeah.

36:09.84
gav
Fuck.

36:09.72
Chibbs
Yeah.

36:10.94
gav
I'm sorry.

36:10.94
Bevo
carla Carlos, Carlos, it's your cousin, Matt, so whatever.

36:10.30
Chibbs
Yeah.

36:11.48
gav
Fuck.

36:11.17
Chibbs
yeah

36:14.57
Chibbs
yeah

36:15.49
Bevo
You know that new collaboration you've been looking

36:17.02
gav
Oh, fuck.

36:18.66
Bevo
Well, listen, not crazy, I'm not crazy.

36:18.94
gav
Listen to this. Shit.

36:21.74
Bevo
ah

36:25.51
gav
I'm sorry. I think I burst blood vessels in my face just then when you dropped a weak gutted dog instead of fucking...

36:28.88
Chibbs
ah

36:32.81
gav
I'm fucking you, right? That was just...

36:34.16
Mad Dog
help

36:34.91
Chibbs
you like that one you like that one

36:40.43
Chibbs
fucking hell the um apparently they layered 30 tracks of guitar to get the shimmery tone 30 tracks could you pick that up bevo 30 guitar tracks

36:41.79
Bevo
Jesus.

36:42.06
gav
You've killed Mad Dog.

36:42.19
Bevo
correct

36:48.05
Mad Dog
Are you kidding me?

36:49.65
gav
in this In this track.

36:51.22
Bevo
Right. No, I heard a banjo.

36:53.95
Chibbs
There's a fucking banjo in it. Although tell you what it's one of the rare times banjo has worked in a non-country song.

37:00.53
Bevo
It's pleasant. Yeah.

37:00.81
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah yeah It's like okay, just don't speed up too much. Don't you play that thing fast.

37:06.73
Bevo
Yeah. No, no, no, no,

37:07.61
Chibbs
Yeah,

37:12.56
Bevo
they didn't start chasing us until you put on that getaway music

37:16.47
Chibbs
ah um the The vocals were recorded while Rob Thomas had a head cold.

37:23.51
Bevo
ah

37:22.88
Chibbs
um

37:24.04
gav
Oh, so he was a little unwell.

37:24.47
Mad Dog
Oh.

37:24.92
Bevo
he was a little

37:25.13
Chibbs
Yeah, and apparently it helped with the vulnerability, according to um the producer.

37:27.17
gav
Fuck, sorry, Bevo.

37:29.41
Bevo
jinks

37:31.26
Mad Dog
The vulnerability.

37:30.66
Chibbs
Yeah.

37:33.14
Bevo
yeah right

37:33.20
Chibbs
Yeah, I think he was just caked out of his mind. think Doggy was on from there.

37:36.42
gav
Yeah, he he he sniffed he was sniffling a lot in the studio.

37:37.36
Chibbs
He's like, yeah I'm a bit sniffy.

37:38.26
Mad Dog
ah

37:39.48
Chibbs
he I think he's got a head cold. He's sniffling a lot

37:43.70
Mad Dog
he

37:43.96
gav
ha, ha.

37:44.44
Mad Dog
He was fucking coked up or coming down off being coked up. I'm telling you right now.

37:51.48
gav
Yeah.

37:50.95
Chibbs
Yeah, okay.

37:51.84
gav
No, that's, that's, I feel like we've, we've all admitted. Actually, I think I was the only one that would apologize to you, Mad Dog. Just say you, if you're keeping score of these things,

37:59.66
Mad Dog
Yeah.

38:00.16
Bevo
nothing. I said nothing.

38:02.44
Mad Dog
Well, i I reached out to you feeling like you would feel me on that and then you left me fucking hanging.

38:02.96
gav
ah I went all in on him.

38:12.22
gav
Yeah.

38:12.31
Bevo
Well, was the one that looked up all the facts.

38:12.38
Mad Dog
So...

38:12.42
gav
Okay. Well, I apologize for that too.

38:13.65
Chibbs
Is there a video, Gav?

38:16.27
gav
There is a video.

38:18.13
Bevo
The first fight on the pod.

38:31.65
gav
All right. A progression of nuttier...

38:32.68
Bevo
That's the new stinger.

38:34.75
gav
Oh, it's the new stinger. We did a last week.

38:36.49
Bevo
I wasn't there.

38:36.51
gav
We did the new stinger last week.

38:37.82
Bevo
I missed out.

38:37.94
gav
Oh, you weren't there. Fuck. Sorry. Anyway, a progression of nuttier and nuttier hallucinations parade parade through the clip, but more than the elongated body parts and imaginary cartoon dog, the least realistic vision in the is the banjo player trying to look cool.

38:53.98
Bevo
How's the little...

38:53.52
Chibbs
i

38:54.40
gav
There's a...

38:54.73
Chibbs
I don't think I got far enough into this video.

38:57.61
gav
he It's right at the end.

38:58.06
Bevo
Yeah, I guess...

38:59.05
gav
It's literally... Actually, I think it's just before... Oh,

39:01.47
Chibbs
No, I don't remember seeing a cartoon or any crazy shit.

39:04.47
Bevo
How's the PS1 graphic dog, like Scooby-Doo looking thing?

39:04.90
gav
ah okay. You didn't get very far at all.

39:04.85
Chibbs
Nah, that's to be fair. I didn't.

39:09.99
gav
um

39:09.37
Chibbs
Scooby-Doo's in it?

39:11.54
Bevo
No, but...

39:12.35
gav
Basically, yeah.

39:12.47
Chibbs
Ruh-roh!

39:15.60
Bevo
Like Aldi Scooby-Doo.

39:16.77
Chibbs
Right, outie-doo.

39:17.71
gav
um

39:19.09
Bevo
Scoob and Doof...

39:19.16
Mad Dog
um

39:19.38
gav
Yeah.

39:21.88
gav
But yeah, I'm talking like... um Three minutes 35 out of a three minute 49 film clip. You cut to this guy in a full-on fucking leather jacket pulling guitar riff faces and he's just sitting there like plucking away on a banjo.

39:33.29
Chibbs
Sick.

39:35.89
gav
It's very, very jarring.

39:35.37
Chibbs
Well, poor bastard.

39:36.72
Mad Dog
Yeah, it's so fucked up.

39:38.62
Chibbs
the It's directed by Mero Avis, who did the video for With or Without You by U2. And My Happy Ending by Avril Lavigne. I don't remember that song at all.

39:49.44
Bevo
Oh yeah, right. So much for my happy ending.

39:50.83
gav
Okay. Okay.

39:51.82
Chibbs
She's she's got a theme song about hand jobs?

39:57.08
Bevo
Oh, we'll have to discover that one.

39:57.97
Chibbs
Yeah, I'll have to. Yeah, I don't remember that one at all.

40:01.00
Mad Dog
Old Avril. Yeah. and Okay.

40:02.07
Chibbs
Yeah.

40:03.86
Mad Dog
um

40:03.96
Chibbs
Apparently it was partially inspired by a beautiful mind.

40:04.94
Mad Dog
Any...

40:07.39
Chibbs
did it Did it have that vibe?

40:09.82
Bevo
whose mind he was referring to.

40:09.87
Mad Dog
Righto. Yeah.

40:12.94
gav
Yeah, maybe.

40:15.31
Mad Dog
An unwell

40:16.70
Chibbs
Well, Russell Crowe's beard is a fucking pile of shit. That's all we know.

40:20.19
gav
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

40:20.52
Chibbs
That's all we know.

40:21.46
gav
ah

40:21.00
Chibbs
Is there a set list, Bevo? Ooh. Yeah,

40:23.52
Bevo
There is. it.

40:30.67
Mad Dog
The ultimate the ultimate

40:30.04
Chibbs
it is.

40:31.54
Bevo
Oh, yeah.

40:34.35
Mad Dog
skill.

40:34.91
Bevo
Skill. ah Yeah, there's a new TAFE course for it, actually. um It's not uni, it's just TAFE.

40:41.89
Mad Dog
Dave.

40:42.03
Chibbs
it's and It is not government subsidised. It's $1,100 a term.

40:45.17
Mad Dog
Yeah.

40:45.55
Bevo
Tertiary education, that's what I'm studying.

40:47.10
Mad Dog
I'll go to tech. I'm doing a tech course.

40:48.32
Chibbs
Yeah. it's it's eleven hundred a term

40:53.45
Bevo
Yeah.

40:54.84
Mad Dog
Yeah.

40:54.86
Bevo
You know, hes I went to TAFE for music and um we used to walk across the road to the uni for lunch.

41:01.76
Chibbs
yeah

41:02.94
Mad Dog
Yes.

41:02.96
Bevo
And like, yeah we were like, don't let anyone know we're from TAFE. Yeah.

41:05.87
Chibbs
i i legit I legit did the exact same thing. i would to I was at Ultimo and it's pretty much on the UTS campus.

41:13.28
Bevo
Yeah. Yeah.

41:12.99
Chibbs
And if you just play your cards right, they'll think you're a legitimate student.

41:17.13
Bevo
yeah You just got to hide some of your shabbier clothes.

41:16.72
Chibbs
okay Yeah, yeah.

41:19.02
gav
Uh-huh.

41:19.56
Chibbs
It didn't help that my TAFE teacher at the time called it Centrelink University.

41:25.17
Bevo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:24.96
Chibbs
Yeah.

41:26.06
gav
ah

41:27.71
Bevo
We'd also go to the uni bar and get fucking smashed and then come back for the rest of the workday.

41:30.89
Chibbs
Yeah. I normally didn't even make the last session because you'd go to bar Broadway and then be like, I'm pretty close to the train station.

41:33.02
Bevo
Anyway.

41:38.73
Bevo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:38.67
Chibbs
I could go to the train station.

41:40.63
Mad Dog
Okay.

41:39.95
Chibbs
can go back to tape. Yeah.

41:42.51
gav
um When I started uni, i was um there was a guy on my cohort that was like a fucking chemistry genius, but only when he was fucking drunk.

41:49.95
Bevo
Fuck eyed.

41:51.01
gav
like He used to come to the tutes every week, just almost belligerently drunk, sit there. And he was like, I got paired up with him in the first week. Eddie, nicest fucking guy ever, but just genuine alcoholic at age 18.

42:02.10
Chibbs
bit an alcoholic.

42:06.29
gav
And um he'd sit there and just like understand every fucking thing would just get like a hundred percent on these tests. And then one week he came in like a little bit shifty than usual. And I was like, you good, man? He's like, yeah, I'm sober.

42:16.90
gav
I'm i'm trying i'm trying to, I'm trying to not drink before class now.

42:17.01
Mad Dog
shifty

42:19.46
gav
And I was Oh, good on you. And he got like 20% on the quiz.

42:21.94
Chibbs
Oh, no way.

42:23.42
gav
The next week he just walked in.

42:24.12
Bevo
Oh no.

42:23.48
Chibbs
Man, that's going to be such that's goingnna be such a tough job interview. Yeah.

42:28.72
Mad Dog
Yeah.

42:28.87
gav
ah Walked in the following week, loaded and fucking smoked it again.

42:30.92
Chibbs
Yeah, nailed it.

42:33.32
gav
Back at it. I miss you, Eddie.

42:34.19
Bevo
Can I, I just found a quick YouTube comment before we move on. This is from Corinne Rico 342, two weeks ago.

42:37.83
Mad Dog
Yeah.

42:41.29
Bevo
What happened to just listening?

42:44.82
Bevo
You're on YouTube.

42:44.97
gav
yeah

42:45.46
Chibbs
hey Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plenty of listening platforms.

42:48.71
Mad Dog
yeah the the

42:50.57
Chibbs
Yeah.

42:52.20
Bevo
ah yeah

42:51.62
Chibbs
Set list, set list, set list.

42:52.91
Bevo
Set list.

42:53.04
Mad Dog
Yeah. Keep going. Yeah.

42:54.94
Bevo
September 20th, 2024.

42:54.98
Mad Dog
Set list.

42:54.50
Chibbs
but

42:56.50
Bevo
The Soaring Eagle Casino and Resort Outdoor Stage, Mount Pleasant, Michigan, USA. 17 songs. um Yeah. Where would you play?

43:07.17
gav
Sorry. Can you?

43:08.33
Mad Dog
I love that it's at a casino.

43:10.12
gav
Yeah, I was going to say, can you just hit me with that venue name one more time from the top?

43:13.12
Mad Dog
Yeah.

43:13.35
Bevo
soaring Soaring Eagle Casino and Resort Outdoor Stage, Mount Pleasant, Michigan, USA.

43:19.92
gav
Fucking hell yeah.

43:19.30
Chibbs
Sounds great.

43:20.19
Mad Dog
it

43:20.66
Chibbs
Sounds great.

43:21.48
Mad Dog
It doesn't sound pleasant, though.

43:22.39
gav
Hell yeah. How can you be singing a song about ah depression?

43:23.91
Chibbs
um

43:27.49
gav
Oh, actually, no, never mind.

43:27.76
Chibbs
At a casino.

43:28.52
gav
Sorry, it's a song about cocaine. Never mind.

43:30.40
Mad Dog
I'm just crazy.

43:31.95
Bevo
Okay. Well, Zac Brown Band played there couple of weeks ago, Evanescence last year. So you get that sort of tear.

43:39.15
Chibbs
Yeah, okay.

43:40.04
Mad Dog
Righto.

43:40.02
Chibbs
All what's ah What's the capacity?

43:40.80
Bevo
Smash Mouth played there last year.

43:41.28
Mad Dog
right.

43:44.41
Bevo
and I don't know it says.

43:44.52
Mad Dog
Five there.

43:46.50
gav
I'm going 10.

43:48.36
Bevo
No, I got an address for you, but it doesn't tell me the capacity.

43:47.98
Chibbs
Nah.

43:50.60
Bevo
Sorry.

43:50.63
gav
You want a cheeky 10,000.

43:50.14
Chibbs
Okay.

43:52.39
Mad Dog
Oh, yeah.

43:52.78
gav
we'll put it We'll put it in the show notes for those playing along.

43:53.84
Chibbs
Yeah, okay.

43:55.43
Mad Dog
Yep.

43:55.68
Chibbs
Alright, 17 songs, unwell. It's not going to be... It's going to be in the middle somewhere. I'm going to go 10. 10th. Oh. Oh. tenth

44:05.02
gav
I was going to go eighth.

44:06.39
Mad Dog
13th.

44:08.22
Bevo
Oh, mad dog. It's 14th. You're close.

44:09.80
Chibbs
oh

44:10.69
Mad Dog
Me lonely, ah.

44:12.12
gav
Oh, God.

44:13.21
Bevo
And 13th

44:14.51
gav
God.

44:17.50
Bevo
was, it's 3 a.m. and I must be lonely.

44:20.00
Mad Dog
me lonely here

44:21.03
gav
Okay, there we go.

44:21.05
Chibbs
Wait, what was...

44:21.83
gav
So earlier on...

44:22.33
Chibbs
Wait, can you give me the set?

44:25.20
Bevo
Yeah, so they open with a song called Friends. Then How Far We've Come, you'd know that one. Let's see how far we've come.

44:31.38
gav
How far we've come.

44:31.14
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

44:33.33
Bevo
Real world disease.

44:33.56
gav
Yep.

44:34.58
Bevo
She's so mean. Don't get me wrong. If you're gone, mad season bent back to good long day rebels 3am unwell push bright lights.

44:37.28
Chibbs
If you're gone, great.

44:43.31
Bevo
And they finished with a cover of don't you forget about me.

44:47.02
gav
Forget about me.

44:47.26
Mad Dog
Don't you forget about

44:47.19
Chibbs
Really? Really?

44:48.83
gav
Great way to end a set, to be honest.

44:49.89
Chibbs
Alright, that's rocking.

44:51.03
gav
I respect that.

44:51.42
Chibbs
I don't don't want that at all.

44:53.88
gav
ah I like that a lot. That's that's dope from them.

44:55.80
Bevo
I'd have a bit of that.

44:56.26
Mad Dog
Don't you forget about me.

45:00.32
Chibbs
Yeah, that's cool. Alright, good stuff, Matchbox 20.

45:02.79
gav
um

45:03.57
Chibbs
Good stuff.

45:04.31
gav
Yeah, I really like that.

45:05.65
Bevo
See how Rob Thomas is touring Australia next month, I think.

45:05.92
gav
I like that set.

45:08.94
gav
Let's go.

45:08.26
Chibbs
Is he? Let's go! Although apparently the last Matchbox 20 tour out here was dog shit because they just played their new album.

45:11.90
Mad Dog
Let's go.

45:17.47
Bevo
Ugh.

45:18.06
gav
Oh, it's always tough.

45:17.48
Chibbs
And they were playing fucking like Kudos Bank Arena and then just went, here's all the new stuff.

45:18.89
Mad Dog
Oh, don't do that.

45:22.81
Chibbs
And ya you go, you fuckers.

45:24.78
Mad Dog
No.

45:25.69
gav
That's tough.

45:26.02
Chibbs
Yeah.

45:26.81
Mad Dog
No.

45:26.82
gav
That's tough.

45:28.04
Mad Dog
Yeah.

45:27.51
Chibbs
Yeah.

45:28.27
gav
um I saw Smashing Pumpkins on their Oceania tour and that that was like obviously quite...

45:31.50
Chibbs
Hmm.

45:34.97
gav
What year was that? um I'll have a quick look. But like it wasn't last year.

45:37.59
Mad Dog
Last year.

45:40.15
gav
It was 2012.

45:40.72
Bevo
Yeah, let's just say last year.

45:42.85
gav
So it was 2012 and they came out and they played it top to bottom and it was kind of like, oh, they've they've done that. I really liked the album, so I was kind of into it, but you could tell the crowd was hating it.

45:51.91
Chibbs
Okay. Yeah, that's dog shit.

45:53.97
Bevo
Yeah, it's ah it's a hard one because same thing with the Chili Peppers. They played a few years ago and they played lot of new stuff, but it's like it's too big a venue to not please that many fans.

45:57.86
Chibbs
Yeah.

46:03.36
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hit.

46:04.69
Mad Dog
Yes.

46:04.84
gav
to Yeah, yeah.

46:05.28
Chibbs
Go play, go play, go play like, like the Rolling Stones did that time, where the Rolling Stones played the Enmore, and they played all new shit and whatever, and then they played Stadium, and it's like, here's a hit.

46:06.05
gav
Yeah.

46:13.61
Bevo
Yeah. And if you're a fan, go to the small show.

46:16.53
Mad Dog
Yeah.

46:16.76
gav
Yeah.

46:17.51
Bevo
Like, yeah, i'd I'd love to see a lot of big bands play small shows, but, you know.

46:18.18
gav
Yeah.

46:18.44
Mad Dog
Absolutely.

46:21.75
gav
Oh, for sure. I feel like the Pumpkins made up for it though because they came out and Billy Corgan is like notoriously a pretty big wanker, a massive prick.

46:28.35
Chibbs
Fuck, wait.

46:29.35
Mad Dog
A cunt.

46:30.21
Bevo
You're prick.

46:30.62
Mad Dog
Yeah.

46:30.47
Chibbs
Yeah.

46:31.31
gav
And there's certain songs they just don't play because they're like no, fuck you about it.

46:33.97
Chibbs
Yeah.

46:34.79
Bevo
Hmm.

46:34.92
gav
And they came out and they dropped like three of the songs they don't normally play as the encore. Like i think they played like Zero, ah fucking like Ava Adore.

46:40.41
Mad Dog
yeah

46:43.97
gav
They played some like mad shit that they don't usually play because they played the album top to bottom.

46:48.82
Mad Dog
Zero sick.

46:50.55
gav
Zero is a fucking tune, man.

46:50.75
Mad Dog
And um Billy Corgan is a cunt.

46:52.86
Bevo
Yeah, that's a good one.

46:55.22
gav
Yeah, it's well known.

46:54.87
Chibbs
Yeah.

46:56.64
Mad Dog
Yeah.

46:57.51
gav
It's well known.

46:57.09
Chibbs
Oh, that. Yeah.

46:58.54
gav
i saw um I saw Death Cab for Cutie at the Uni Bar and then like on I think the same tour of the Opera House and it was like, it was insane.

47:05.05
Chibbs
Oh yeah.

47:07.18
Mad Dog
That's mad.

47:08.72
gav
And I think, yeah, the Uni Bar show was really weird because they were clearly, the band was clearly kind of, don't know if something had happened backstage, but they were they were pissed off.

47:15.22
Chibbs
Yeah, they're like, why the fuck am I here?

47:19.55
gav
Like they weren't, oh, I was at that show.

47:18.89
Chibbs
Yeah. We saw Papa Roach and the used at the uni bar and they, yeah, and yeah, they played the Horde and the night before or something.

47:23.24
Mad Dog
Yeah, we did.

47:26.85
Chibbs
And they're like, they're like, this is like ah like a real old school club club show.

47:27.96
gav
Yeah.

47:30.78
gav
A club show, yeah.

47:31.93
Bevo
I had to catch the train to get here and Rob Thomas was on it.

47:33.62
Chibbs
Yeah.

47:35.01
Mad Dog
yeah

47:35.57
Chibbs
Wouldn't shut, wouldn't shut up.

47:37.96
gav
Oh my God.

47:37.31
Chibbs
Yeah.

47:39.37
Mad Dog
We're in town right now.

47:38.66
Chibbs
ah

47:39.47
gav
to um If you told me when I was like 13 or 14 that I was going to see the used at fucking UOW Unibar, I would have lost my fucking mind.

47:41.29
Mad Dog
Yeah.

47:45.92
Chibbs
Oh, tell me about it. Tell me about it. I did. I did lose my mind.

47:52.09
gav
I also lost my mind, but I mean, 13 year old me wouldn't have believed

47:51.86
Chibbs
Yeah.

47:53.88
Bevo
Anyone seen it?

47:55.27
Chibbs
No, no.

47:57.26
Bevo
Well, I didn't lose my mind. I'm just a little unwell.

47:59.05
Chibbs
A little my life.

48:00.64
gav
You know Bert McCracken lives in Sydney. He's like a Sydney cider.

48:04.02
Chibbs
There is. This song reached number five on the US Billboard Hot 100, number one on the Billboard Adult Top 40. It was the most played song on American radio in 2003.

48:15.05
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

48:17.57
Bevo
Yeah, that that tracks.

48:18.72
gav
That's definitely true.

48:18.11
Chibbs
yeah yeah yeah

48:19.96
Mad Dog
e Yep.

48:19.71
Chibbs
yeah

48:20.92
gav
He got played to death here.

48:20.56
Chibbs
And it was nominated for a Grammy, but it lost to Clocks by Coldplay.

48:25.80
Bevo
That also tracks.

48:26.13
gav
I mean, fair.

48:26.32
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

48:27.36
gav
Fair.

48:27.70
Chibbs
Fair enough. um Should we play game then?

48:35.37
gav
Do it.

48:35.68
Bevo
Love a game.

48:35.94
Mad Dog
yale

48:47.31
Chibbs
All right. So there are four members in Matchbox 20 now. um That's who I found the net worth for.

48:58.14
Chibbs
um The bass guitarist, ah Brian Yale. He, Yale, he is a, yeah, I need a big soundboard.

49:03.78
Mad Dog
ya

49:05.80
Bevo
where's that stinger yeah yeah yeah

49:09.56
gav
a

49:10.98
Mad Dog
Okay. Okay.

49:11.97
Chibbs
ah ah This entire this nice show could just be me hitting samples.

49:14.50
Mad Dog
but

49:15.65
Chibbs
um ah He's got a net worth of $10 million, bass player.

49:20.38
Mad Dog
guy

49:21.30
gav
but but Wait, wait, wait, wait. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I was doing some background reading.

49:23.29
Chibbs
yeah Brian Yale, bass player.

49:24.87
gav
The bass player, $10 million.

49:26.43
Chibbs
10 mil.

49:27.33
gav
dollars

49:26.71
Chibbs
10 mil. Yeah.

49:29.06
Bevo
these guys are big news

49:29.14
gav
Fuck.

49:28.61
Chibbs
paul Paul Ducat Ducati.

49:34.10
gav
Paul Durag.

49:34.91
Chibbs
um

49:36.35
Bevo
He sure does.

49:36.92
Chibbs
the drum The drummer. The drummer. The drummer worth $5 million.

49:39.27
Mad Dog
do

49:39.41
gav
not Nice, Bevo.

49:39.91
Chibbs
the drum is worth

49:40.92
Mad Dog
Dukok. like Okay.

49:42.45
Chibbs
he's worth five million dollars

49:45.74
Bevo
Oh, okay.

49:46.65
gav
Mmm.

49:47.47
Mad Dog
None of these cunts are living in Thurul.

49:46.77
Chibbs
okay

49:49.65
Bevo
Oh, it's do chit, I believe.

49:49.18
Chibbs
not Right, there you go.

49:51.70
Bevo
Do shit.

49:51.04
Chibbs
Okay. Kyle Cook, the lead guitarist, is worth $12 million.

49:55.88
Bevo
He sure does. Okay.

49:56.39
Chibbs
$12 million. dollars Okay.

49:59.09
Mad Dog
Still not Thurul.

50:01.68
Bevo
So we're going up.

50:01.10
Chibbs
What's Rob Thomas worth in 2025, Gav?

50:07.10
gav
I reckon it's going to be... I reckon he's fucked his band out of some serious cash. You said he had the only songwriting credit.

50:12.79
Chibbs
He's the sole songwriter. Sole songwriter.

50:14.96
gav
Yeah, okay. That makes me think he's probably done that for just about everything they've ever done. I'm going to clean 45.

50:22.31
Chibbs
Okay, dog.

50:25.10
Mad Dog
Okay, so he's obviously a coke head.

50:28.86
gav
Does he have scent of cocagna? Yeah.

50:31.42
Bevo
The cocoa plant.

50:31.70
Mad Dog
the i was going this the scent of Rob.

50:33.52
Bevo
ah coca plant

50:36.86
Mad Dog
So, like, the the scent of thievery.

50:36.99
gav
Scent of Rob.

50:39.76
gav
his His scent would be so called Smooth, wouldn't it?

50:43.31
Mad Dog
the the

50:43.99
Bevo
Yeah.

50:44.17
gav
Rob Thomas, Smooth.

50:45.81
Mad Dog
The scent of Thomas. um

50:50.93
Mad Dog
Anyway, um fuck it. He's got a drug problem. So I was going with a billion, but because he's got a drug problem, I'll go with 125 million.

51:05.51
Chibbs
All right. Bevo?

51:08.17
Bevo
Imagine being a billionaire, but all your mates have 10 million, 12 million in the bed.

51:13.40
Mad Dog
Yeah, that's that's the piece of shit that this guy is.

51:16.22
Bevo
discrepancy That's a discrepancy. um

51:18.18
Mad Dog
Yeah.

51:19.44
Bevo
ah just I just looked it up also. he Rob is short for Robert and not Robin. Just thought you should know that.

51:25.96
gav
I never would have I never ever would have thought Robin

51:26.08
Bevo
Yeah.

51:26.40
Chibbs
I thought was Roberto. i thought it was roberto

51:29.30
Mad Dog
ah What?

51:31.30
gav
but

51:32.04
Mad Dog
I'm shocked.

51:33.83
Bevo
Yeah. you call him Bob Thomas if you want.

51:35.67
gav
Rob you will 9

51:36.40
Bevo
Also born in Germany. I'm

51:37.81
Chibbs
Of course he is.

51:40.27
gav
nine

51:41.02
Bevo
im going to say a matchbox, $20 million. dollars Yeah, of course it is.

51:43.97
Chibbs
Yeah, it's $20 million. dollars it Yeah, it is.

51:46.47
Mad Dog
Oh, wow.

51:46.73
gav
Not

51:46.98
Bevo
Yeah. And every every time he makes one cent more, he spends it just to keep it.

51:47.22
Chibbs
it is.

51:49.73
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah

51:51.49
gav
bad.

51:52.13
Bevo
Get on.

51:52.58
Chibbs
yeah it is $20 million. Yeah, yeah. um

51:56.17
gav
ah bad

51:56.34
Chibbs
Hey, it's not fucking bad. It's not bad at all.

51:59.07
Bevo
lato He was born in Landstuhl.

51:58.86
Chibbs
All right, let's write this shit.

52:12.82
Chibbs
like Okay, what are we writing out of? Like, Shadow Friends? Yeah.

52:17.39
gav
Oh, God. the The options are pretty...

52:18.11
Bevo
a

52:17.93
Chibbs
ah yeah yeah How unwell.

52:18.67
Mad Dog
ah

52:19.35
Bevo
how unwell you are.

52:21.19
Chibbs
Ten being... um they've they

52:24.79
Bevo
the They're pulling out the green whistle in the ambulance.

52:26.14
Chibbs
yeah

52:27.23
Mad Dog
and yeah

52:28.88
gav
a ah

52:29.51
Chibbs
He's very unwell.

52:30.30
Mad Dog
yeah Now, you're not crazy, but you're unwell on a scale of 1 to 10.

52:37.18
Bevo
ah they've called the They've called the priest in at 10.

52:38.94
Chibbs
Yeah.

52:40.13
Mad Dog
Yeah, yeah.

52:39.69
Chibbs
like Exorcism is 10.

52:43.14
Mad Dog
One is you're taking a Panadol.

52:43.39
Bevo
it didn't mean that.

52:42.82
Chibbs
Yeah. one

52:44.19
Bevo
but ah

52:44.70
Chibbs
One is a Zyrtec just to get the allergies under.

52:45.47
Mad Dog
Yeah. Yeah.

52:47.17
gav
I love that we were talking about bringing someone's unwell, you're bringing your priest in. Instead of going last rites, Chibs has gone, it's an exorcism.

52:53.83
Chibbs
ah Yeah. Well, they're crazy. They're crazy.

53:01.32
Mad Dog
Crazy at well.

53:01.46
Chibbs
Yeah. yeah yeah I figured if you got to the certain ah the level of crazy you got to get to where even a sane person goes fuck we haven't tried exorcism yeah

53:13.32
gav
We might have to great bring in the clergyman.

53:17.15
Bevo
but I'd love to know what what's the one equivalent of that kind of crazy, like just rubbing, like washing your hands every five minutes.

53:17.86
Chibbs
ah

53:23.17
Chibbs
it's some yeah and um um alright what do you give this out of 10 Gav

53:24.16
Mad Dog
ah

53:32.51
gav
ah I mean, it's one of those songs that's pretty innocuous. I don't hate um Matchbox 20 by any stretch. I think it's a Crazy Frog 4. It's a Crazy Frog 4.

53:40.05
Chibbs
Ring-a-ding-ding, bam, bam, bam. Bevo, what do you give it?

53:44.34
Bevo
I'm kind of on the same page. It's innocuous is a really good word to describe it. It's I'd never choose to put on matchbox 20, but um yeah, I'm going to say four as well. Crazy f for four.

53:54.91
gav
Nice.

53:54.56
Chibbs
All right, dog.

53:57.04
Mad Dog
Don't hate, don't like. Ricky ricky Stewart, we've got a dog.

54:00.37
gav
Oh...

54:02.72
Mad Dog
LAUGHTER

54:09.13
Chibbs
and

54:12.16
gav
oh oh fuck it never gets old i seriously I laugh every fucking time wait so i know it's coming and I'm still sitting there on the edge of my seat like say the dog person bit

54:13.02
Chibbs
uh uh it never gets old yeah dog dog person um i give it two

54:16.14
Mad Dog
what Dog person.

54:24.43
Mad Dog
It's so good.

54:29.43
Chibbs
who

54:31.30
Mad Dog
Oh, he loves it.

54:31.65
Bevo
Yeah, right.

54:32.03
gav
nice nice matchbox 20 are good man they're good

54:31.62
Chibbs
Yeah.

54:32.41
Bevo
I thought you'd be a bit matchy.

54:32.55
Chibbs
what I like Matchbox 20 a lot.

54:35.55
Bevo
Yeah.

54:35.02
Chibbs
ah lot and And I go through these little phases like like you are with Frenzel, where it's like I just get it that this is Matchbox 20.

54:39.81
Mad Dog
Just create. yeah

54:41.81
Bevo
Yeah.

54:43.09
Chibbs
You just go, fuck, they got some really good songs. And it's I think we were talking about this a week or so ago, where it's this like...

54:46.51
Bevo
Yeah,

54:50.94
Chibbs
desperation for just bands like I just want a band that right that writes good songs that are playing instruments that write good songs and know the importance of a hook and and you can't say Matchbox 20 do not write fucking hooks like they do and it's a band doing it yeah yeah let's push let's push no

54:55.50
gav
A band.

54:55.58
Bevo
yeah yeah.

54:56.04
gav
it's for Four people and they're all holding an instrument and they're playing it.

54:57.83
Bevo
You know what?

54:59.64
gav
Yeah.

55:02.03
Bevo
we Yeah, yeah.

55:02.84
gav
Yeah. Yeah.

55:03.99
Bevo
I want to go back and listen to all these songs.

55:08.64
Bevo
Yeah. Yeah.

55:08.81
gav
Oh, fuck yeah. 3am. We talked about it earlier, but 3am is a fucking great song.

55:12.68
Mad Dog
Dreaming must be lonely. a

55:15.27
Bevo
you guys seen that?

55:15.44
gav
That's a fucking good song, man.

55:15.95
Bevo
um Have you guys seen the Barbie movie? You've got to watch the Barbie movie.

55:18.23
Chibbs
na

55:19.13
gav
Yeah.

55:21.03
Bevo
There's one bit where like they fucking, yeah they lampoon dudes on the beach with acoustic guitar singing Push.

55:22.48
Mad Dog
Maybe.

55:27.77
Chibbs
um

55:30.71
Chibbs
um Yeah, so I give it a two.

55:31.72
Bevo
Very good.

55:32.23
Chibbs
And the only reason I give it two is that it's not my favorite Matchbox 20 song. There you go.

55:36.64
gav
Yeah, fair enough. what would What would be your favorite Matchbox 20 song?

55:38.01
Bevo
What?

55:39.55
Chibbs
It'd probably change a lot. Oh, it'd say 3am, but yeah, there's so like it's what they're one of those ones that you just you put on this as Matchbox 20 and you go, yeah, this song's sick.

55:43.57
gav
3AM's got to be up there.

55:44.78
Bevo
Disease, I reckon, would be.

55:51.03
Chibbs
Oh, this good one as well. Oh, this good one as well.

55:52.95
Mad Dog
Yeah.

55:54.10
gav
Yeah, yeah.

55:53.53
Chibbs
Yeah, there's there's a lot.

55:55.49
Mad Dog
i

55:55.25
Chibbs
Yeah.

55:55.97
Mad Dog
They were the perfect band at the time for the era in which they were, yeah.

55:59.85
Chibbs
And they write songs that you can just pick you can pick up an acoustic guitar and play all their songs, and and it's just they they're fun they're fun to play.

56:04.41
Bevo
Yeah, that's...

56:04.71
Mad Dog
oh

56:05.12
Bevo
you that youre You're the Barbie movie, you're parodying.

56:07.05
Mad Dog
They're a great band. Great band,

56:09.14
Chibbs
Yeah.

56:10.96
gav
ah Yeah, you can pick up your guitar on the beach and play this song.

56:10.28
Chibbs
yeah

56:11.01
Mad Dog
yeah

56:13.87
Bevo
with Barbie, with Margot Robbie.

56:16.00
Chibbs
Fine. That's cool. If someone's got to do it, someone's got to do it. ah um All right. ah Thanks, fellas.

56:24.44
Mad Dog
dog person.

56:24.99
Chibbs
Everyone else, go fuck yourself. Yeah.

56:29.20
Mad Dog
A dog person.

56:29.69
Chibbs
Bye.

56:34.65
gav
I'm a dog person.

56:37.17
Bevo
Yeah, I'm not crazy, I'm just a little bit of a little bit of cut down, thank you.

56:37.46
Mad Dog
I'm just a, I'm a dog person, I'm a dog person.

56:46.41
Mad Dog
And I'm a fucking dog person.

56:47.54
gav
Doug person side of me.

56:52.52
Mad Dog
I'm a fucking dog person. nothing

56:59.04
Mad Dog
I'm a fucking dog person.

57:03.64
Chibbs
Thank

57:07.22
gav
Um,